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    Post  momo(sdu) Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:18 am

    Now I Inform All Member Have 2 New Join Member Will Leave Of SDU Clan .

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    Reason : Cheater & Radar Use , No Need Reload Tazer.

    This Is I have Admin Spec (view ) All The 3 Times & Confirm With 2 More Admin in Last Game.

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    Post  13|ching Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:51 pm

    momo wrote:Now I Inform All Member Have 2 New Join Member Will Leave Of SDU Clan .

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    Reason : Cheater & Radar Use , No Need Reload Tazer.

    This Is I have Admin Spec (view ) All The 3 Times & Confirm With 2 More Admin in Last Game.

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    Post  cloak{sdu} Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:52 pm

    oh that sucks. I thought they were just good. I was looking high at them before.. now I know my games with them are worthless Evil or Very Mad
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    Post  13|ching Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:38 pm

    in fact, i cannot believe,
    i still doubt...

    they are really good on covering other and good in using cam for playing .
    2 days ago, i was playing with them. although they got high marks, i did not doubt they could do it. In Mus clan, most of them are skillful players.For example.. coly (Mr_clan now), vocka, ycc, diulama, noob_spirit, muscle, bubu, devrge, gerger....., most of them are good in covering and back up each other.

    2 days ago, someone suspected me is cheater who is using "auto aim"... Evil or Very Mad
    this is an insult... Evil or Very Mad

    most of skillful player know how to cover team and use cam , shoot with "pressing button c, and aim at head"
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    Post  Killerlead1998 Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:12 pm

    momo wrote:Now I Inform All Member Have 2 New Join Member Will Leave Of SDU Clan .

    FFreborn
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    Reason : Cheater & Radar Use , No Need Reload Tazer.

    This Is I have Admin Spec (view ) All The 3 Times & Confirm With 2 More Admin in Last Game.

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    I knew that those 2 are cheaters Cause when im getting arrested and they were going far from me they know where iam even not typing a single word
    Btw,Are they banned from server?
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    Post  cloak{sdu} Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:03 am

    ching wrote:in fact, i cannot believe,
    i still doubt...

    they are really good on covering other and good in using cam for playing .
    2 days ago, i was playing with them. although they got high marks, i did not doubt they could do it. In Mus clan, most of them are skillful players.For example.. coly (Mr_clan now), vocka, ycc, diulama, noob_spirit, muscle, bubu, devrge, gerger....., most of them are good in covering and back up each other.

    2 days ago, someone suspected me is cheater who is using "auto aim"... Evil or Very Mad
    this is an insult... Evil or Very Mad

    most of skillful player know how to cover team and use cam , shoot with "pressing button c, and aim at head"

    hey, no silentrogue(ph) or cloak(ph) here? lol kidding. might have missed you when you were playing on mus afro me too I really feel sad about this.
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    Post  cloak{sdu} Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:10 am

    I remember when I used to laugh when I block the door with vip beside me and the swat from behind the door can't do anything but wait until the time runs out. haha.. that is when the breach gun was invented. and I also wedge the door on susp spawn to prevent susp getting into position first and I just escort vip like a walk in the park. those where the days.. Very Happy but it's better now that many people are really skillful these days. I hoope swat can also kill vip here so the swat will be more careful with vip to like how suspects are careful with vip too. I love hiding behind vip when swats are rescuing him lol lol!
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    Post  Tsu Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:50 pm

    lol....why you always tell me hack ??? you can ask cloak or ching....my ping and my computer very good...taze not reload???you can do that too if you double click left mouse(i don't know how you undersand coz i'm vietnamese). Cloak can you help me tell him undersand Crying or Very sad
    Radar???me and tsura is brother , 2 computer near and we work team very good (FFreborn,Tsura,CHing) u can ask Ching too...ok thx for read( my ENG bad...don't know how to tell you undersand...sry about that
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    Post  13|ching Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:49 pm

    my english is not good too.
    and i reali dont know what is the conditions of this case.

    for my opinion, low ping is good for playing swat..the shooting aim is good and reloading time is fast too.

    i really dont know they are using the radar or not..
    but i know ff and tsura have been playing swat4 for 4 yrs or more. according to their experience, it is not hard to guess where do player hide...

    Swat 4, this game contains too many bugs. for example: wall bugs(a lot of bad guys like playing wall bug that i reali hate...), sometime no sting and flash effect too...

    a few days before... i played with ffreborn and tsura...
    we did communicate with other , and we were using cam and typing word to remind each other...

    playing swat4, its not hard to get high mark if u get a good cover and using cam...

    yes, tsu said "2 computer near and we work team very good", it is truth,
    i and my middle brother will give hints during we are playing swats together...
    his name is ftorres(angelabb)<----super noob guys...

    for above sentences, just my opinions...
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    Post  Tsu Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:57 pm

    thx for belive me... i'm playing swat 4year and more, i hate cheat and hack too
    I'm supermod in MUS CLan....i never use hack or cheat, this game many bug and some people think this is hack. Thx for read
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    Post  DEVGRU Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:39 am

    even though, I didn't play with them but I know their skills and I can understand they're good in team work especially when they have 2 computers... OMG! I wish I have that too but my bro doesn't play swat Mad

    Actually, It's really close between skillful and Cheats but there is something more... is RESPECT! it's not ONLY RESPECT other players but it means RESPECT yourself as well, people who plays with cheat they aren't even know how to do respect themselves, they are just fuckers who comes to ruin the game. I also like to play against with cheaters coz I knew they cheat and I'm really proud when I owned them... I'm proud of my self albino but I hate when someone calls me cheater also...LOL so, anyway I trust them, Tsu and FFB.
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    Post  13|ching Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:54 pm

    dev,,u a cheater...i know!!!!!
    hahahahha

    yes, i like to rape cheater too as same as u! alien
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    Post  Tsu Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:19 pm

    thx DEVGRU Razz ...where is Admin...now can you belive me??? We play swat4 for fun and relax so don't need use cheat or hack...i want play with my clan mus and some friend...plz unbanned if you trust us...thx for read
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    Post  oldman Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:54 am

    I been playing SWAT4 since 2004, been playing with Tsura and FFreborn from that day and joining MUS clan. We never have members who are hack or cheat. Until momo told me he got proof both them cheats, hard for me to BELIEVE, but i respected owner's decision so i tell momo u have the right to take actions, BUT in this case i think momo should have listen to all parties for giving opinions.

    From my experienced playing with MUS members, they all really have good SKILLS and GOOD TEAMWORKS( not to brag but its fact) when play SWAT4, especially when Tsura and FF playing together, they really communicate(cam view) well eachother, coz they have 2 GOOD computers and low ping when playing in HK servers.

    And i plea to SDU owner's and admin to reconsider this situation, and have good talk with them. They are very good ethic players, never scold or swear to other players from what i know. And Tsura is Super Admin in MUS clan and have good relations with other members.

    Lastly forgive me for my 2 cents opinions.....but im proud to be in 2 Clans members.

    Momo ur are gr8 guy, and i think u have give ALL SWAT4 players in Asia a gr8 pleasure and fun to play SWAT4. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MOMO! I salute you. Peace \m/.

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    Post  13|ching Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:03 pm

    {MUS}GeRaK aka {SDU}oldman
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    i got non- clan Sad
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    Post  Tsu Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:14 pm

    thx Gerak Smile...sometime i don't play with you Crying or Very sad ,
    To Ching: lol , you still in musclan. Muscle , my boss will come back soon Razz
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    Post  Moo Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:05 pm

    actually no one can know if the player use hack or not (unless if he make it too obvious). only people who sit beside his computer will know if they hack or not. such hacks like radar, wallhack & aimbot really give admins here very tough jobs coz those hack are undetected. it is very hard to proof them and very unfair to those who play clean. sometimes i dont understand why hackers are so proud with their hack score.

    about your case tsu & ffreborn,
    i was not there when u were ban. i only know about it after i read the forum. so i dunno much about the situation. but you guys are in difficult position coz this is the 2nd times u been banned in SDU. i was able to help u previously but i doubt if i can help u this time.

    somemore u were caught hack by 1 SA & 2 admins. if it is only by 1 admin, maybe he did a mistake, but it was by 3 admins..?

    all i can say is, i trust other admins. i know they were doing their job well. i believe, they won't simply ban u without a proof.
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    Post  Tsu Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:57 pm

    i can't say anything coz i'm not HACK OR CHEAT
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    Post  Tsu Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:12 pm

    momo..can you unbanned me on Vip server???i like play vip than bs and some time Vip server have war clan (i like war Cool )...thx you
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    Post  momo(sdu) Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:21 pm

    To {Mus} clan & Member Of Ffreborn , Tsura

    First Of All . I Didnt reply Any in Pose Cause I Dont Like Arguy (Even I Kick RB Out Of Clan ). I Respect MUS Clan Cause They Professional , polite , Respect Another Player ....like gerak, tiny, devgru...etc

    Secondly . SDU Clan Just Grow Up About 2 Years ....Its Really Young Clan Of Swat4...But In My Experience, I Have Play This Game Since 1998( If Unbelieve Can Ask Mr.Vain / {Mus}Pig / (TAT)Reskus_girl...etc)...In Skill I am Not Professional ....like A Newbie ...lol. But I Am Old.

    Now I have Talk 2 Story Its Happen In Our Server .

    About Half Years Ago...One Player Name " 9mm" Play In Our Server With Me About 4 Months(He is Not Our Clan Member )..He Is Professional , Good Partner With me & he Is Very Polite . Of Course He can Get High score In Game .
    One day . Me & him In Swat Team , one Player In Susp . Map Is Foodwall. I Get Flash In Redcar & Susp Want Arrest Me . He Backup Me Throw Stinge from Roof, Cause He Go down From Stair Quit Far Away . He Use Pepper Spray us Agian & Want Arrest Susp . But Suddenly In My Cam ( cause Same Team I can see Him) . He Arresting Is Me !!!!! When That Moment I Think He Want Arrest Susp But Aim Wrong Target on me....Before 4 Month i didnt Saw Him Use Any Hack Or Cheat In Game ....so I Trust Him !..But, If Not Happen Of This , I never Know He Is Hacker . ....(of Course I ban Him immediately.)

    About one months Ago . Player Name |UF|hannibal Play In Our Server . I think someone Know he Is Very Famous Professional ( unbelieve , pls Search |UF| Clan Server In Gametracker.). one day he come to our server With tag Team Arrest Another Player ...I Strange Is He Fake hannibal ? So i copy His Ip & Inform To UF Clan ...They reply Me Is Very Close Of his Ip & They Tell me |UF|Hannibal Never Be |UF| Member ....I So Shocking ....I dont Know Why They Kick Him Out Of Clan , But I Only Know He Use Hack Team Arrest In Our Server ...(Of Course I ban Him Immediately too)



    I Want To Say No One can Trust In game Cause No One Can See Really use Hack / cheat Program in His Computer. I Just Believe My eyes & experience. Anything can Happen In swat4 Game .

    Ok Now ...Talk About Tsura & ffreborn .
    Until Now I didnt talk About One Things For All About - Tsura.

    Did U Remeber , I Ask U : " Why U Didnt Have Mask, But In Gas Still Can kill that 2 Susp ?"
    I Ask U Of This Question In Game 3 Times. U didnt Answer Me Anything Until The Game end .
    I Trsut My Eyes In Cam . I dont Trust any Good Connection , Fast Computer & Sit Together Play In game Good BackUp Reasons. Gerak , Tiny , Devgru They All Is Pro Player , Am I Complain Them Use cheat / hack ? Why I Only Said U ?

    I Dont Know Who removed Your Ban in BS Server . Now I Give Your One More Chance . If Our Admin Or Member Complain Yours One More Time . Your Ban Will never Remove In our Server And Forum.



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    Post  Tsu Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:03 am

    First of all. Thx you momo
    I'm really shock , coz you play this game since 1998 ( very old guy)
    Secondly, i don't use gas mask but don't sticky gas???? I think we have two reason:
    1. This game many bug....sometime ago,i have "Bang" one swat , he stay at stair and my bang near him . I believe he got Bang but he still ok and shot me.
    2. While you cast Gas to me , Gas spread to all room . When Gas spread i have time run out area there and still ok. Gas not fast = Bang Arrow
    Final, Good Connection and fast Computer very nice with player .My experience, you can faster than some player 1-3s . Thx For read , peace lol!
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    Post  DEVGRU Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:15 am

    dear momo, I respect ur decision also WHATEVER u did I'll respect.

    we're old players and I think we're the same to play this game for fun with friends or bros so, I know it's quite annoying sometimes when played with someone who care only scores, these guys they don't care anyone even nades their teams for arrest people or etc. So cheaters are the same they don't play for fun they believe that they're above other players with stupid cheats. they're play without RESPECT just play for scores without care anybody, even they'll lose respect themselves (coz they have no skills to win people so they have to use cheats) that's shame!!
    so, as u said "no one know they use cheats or not only themselves" that means "if they're too sucks but want to win people they'll use cheats to play game" so it's up to u... u want to be 'F..cker' or 'winner' right? Wink

    In Fact,
    1) I used to use name '9mm' too but long times ago...but I swear that guy it wasn't me (LOL)
    2) Thanks for ur respect to us (MUS), we're respect u too and I really like ur personality since I met u and I'm so proud that u have ur own clan, I know u're good big boss!
    3) I'm not professional(skills) as u said... LOL never! and we're not talking about skills coz we play for fun only!
    4) I used lot of names to play SWAT4 (this 1-2 years) so sometimes we met but u don't know who i am Smile
    5) My time now it's hard to play again but I'll go back to play soon (or not it depend on...(answer)... )

    BTW, nice to have ur servers for play and be kind to us. I'll go back in October ,so see you around Wink

    regard,

    DEVGRU

    PS. sorry for long message... I don't like to read long too! ;p
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    Post  Mr_vain Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:01 pm

    Tsu wrote:First of all. Thx you momo
    I'm really shock , coz you play this game since 1998 ( very old guy)
    Secondly, i don't use gas mask but don't sticky gas???? I think we have two reason:
    1. This game many bug....sometime ago,i have "Bang" one swat , he stay at stair and my bang near him . I believe he got Bang but he still ok and shot me.
    2. While you cast Gas to me , Gas spread to all room . When Gas spread i have time run out area there and still ok. Gas not fast = Bang Arrow
    Final, Good Connection and fast Computer very nice with player .My experience, you can faster than some player 1-3s . Thx For read , peace lol!

    who the hell r u? Tsu? i never heard ur name in muscle clan.
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    Post  Tsu Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:10 am

    {MUS}FFreborn and {MUS}Tsura...zzzzz...you can check in web musclan
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    Post  Tsu Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:51 pm

    Who banned my IP again...i'm tired with this problem Neutral

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